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1 Skip Intro  Aug 28, 2014 4:12:12pm

Well, that’s wishy-washy enough to please no one.

2 The War TARDIS  Aug 28, 2014 5:55:51pm

What they are best at.

Considering Hillary is going to go more aggressive with Iran, I will choose something else.

She seems to believe that there is no use for the carrot in negotiations, just a stick, and totally unwilling to concede.

i’ll support someone else.

3 sagehen  Aug 28, 2014 6:46:09pm

“someone else”? Like who?

You can only choose from what’s on the menu; and all that’s going to be on the menu is Hillary Clinton and whatever whackadoo is the last one standing from the clown car.

4 The War TARDIS  Aug 28, 2014 7:17:13pm

re: #3 sagehen

Hoping O’Malley, Sanders, Biden, or even Dean can primary her.

Sorry, but I prefer a more reasonable course of action as needed with Iran, rather than a return to saber-rattling with no concessions.

For one, I could live with Iran having Nuclear Power. Clinton can’t.

5 Skip Intro  Aug 28, 2014 7:23:23pm

The shitstorm the right is going to hit her with before the election is going to make the Obama years look as non-eventful as the Eisenhower ones. Even if she wins, she’s going to be crippled and hated by a large segment of the country before she ever takes office.

Vicious assholes like Limbaugh and the entire Fox News/RW nutosphere will be hitting her with every scandal for the past 30 years, over and over and over. To some of us this will be old news, but there are a lot of people who weren’t political back then who will be seeing this sewage dump for the first time, and they may be swayed by it.

6 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 10:08:09pm

I respect her but I think she had her chance and she lost to Obama. She was a good Sec of State and I appreciate her service as first lady, senator, and SoS but it’s time for new blood. Count me as someone wanting O’Malley. I probably would prefer Biden too though I do think his age is a legitimate concern with him going to be 73 in 2016.

7 CarolJ  Aug 29, 2014 6:15:21am

Willing to consider O’Malley, but I would think Biden would be a good choice. Yes, he would be 73, and that’s a problem, but if he has a good, strong VP that might be surmountable. He wouldn’t have to announce he’s not running for another term, but he could simply announce 3 years out he’s not running, and let the VP have his/her term. I doubt the Republicans will have improved enough to defeat that person, so there’s no real downside here with such a strategy.

8 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 8:48:54am

re: #7 CarolJ

Willing to consider O’Malley, but I would think Biden would be a good choice. Yes, he would be 73, and that’s a problem, but if he has a good, strong VP that might be surmountable. He wouldn’t have to announce he’s not running for another term, but he could simply announce 3 years out he’s not running, and let the VP have his/her term. I doubt the Republicans will have improved enough to defeat that person, so there’s no real downside here with such a strategy.

True point.


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